Inspiration, Motivation, Enablement, and Empowerment Pt. 2

Welcome to Leadership Sovereignty. I'm your host Terry Baylor along with Ralph Owens and in this episode we'll discuss the value of inspiration and motivation and understanding the difference between the two. What is enablement and how true learning happens as one approaches mastery. Enjoy the show.

Andrico, you you we had a conversation where we talked about, briefly, inspiration enablement and empowerment. And I think you said some things that were really life changing that people really need to hear. Just wanna give you the platform to kinda in your own way, dive into those concepts, you know, how you like to communicate and articulate those, based on the experiences that you've had in your life.

Oh, absolutely. Yeah. This is, I'm I'm just so happy to be able to speak about this because it's really a passion of mine. And every time I speak about it, I learn something new as well, oddly enough. Helping others, so helping other business leaders, helping students when you're training them, there's phases that we all go through.

One of the first phases that we go through is the inspiration phase, like something that evokes a feeling of you wanting to do something, right? And normally that can be that's external, right? Like to get inspired by something that you see, something that someone says, something that you read, it'll inspire you and it'll evoke a feeling. Now there's a lot of people that can be inspired and not do anything. You could just walk around inspired and feel really good about that.

And there's nothing wrong with that because that's where it starts. It starts within know, you inside of you. But in order to take that inspiration and turn it into something, there's a couple of more stages that you go through. And so I was inspired, right, sitting on the sidelines of that dojo. I wasn't really inspired.

I'm like, wow, like this is I could do this. Right? But it wasn't until I took that next step, if you will, to where I started to really action it. And one of the I will say one of the pieces kind of right in the middle is motivation. Right?

You gotta have some something's gotta get you out your seat. Right? Something's gotta get you up. Right? And while inspiration can be short term, right?

You can be really inspired one day and then you could lose that inspiration the next day. Motivation tends to be a little more long term, right? Something that's really driving you is that driving force. So inspiration gives you that feeling and that, you know, evokes that emotion, but then that motivation is that driving force that kind of takes you over into, you know, into action. And so when you look at motivation, there's a lot of different things that could motivate someone, right?

I think we talked about it before, it could just be internal something that you just wanna do. Like I've always wanted to do this thing, internally. Or it could be our families, right, could motivate us. It could be your children, right? Seeing them and what the possibilities that they may have might motivate you to want to do something.

And so that motivation and that's a long term thing, right? Motivation normally doesn't die off. And if it does, then you might be mistaking motivation for inspiration. Right?

That's good.

And so once you get, once you have those couple of things, now it's like, hey, I'm ready to go. Right? I'm ready

to go.

I'm ready to do some things. And so it's like, hey, but can I, right? Am I able to do it? And that's where enablement comes into play. Right?

So you have to get, you know, the skills, you have to get the knowledge, right? You have to get the experience to be able, you know, to to do what it is. Right? I'm motivated and and the motivation is gonna keep you. It's gonna keep go it's gonna keep you going.

It's gonna keep driving you, but you gotta get those skills. You gotta build that. You gotta build that foundation.

The Yes. Last Can I can I I jump in there for a sec? Just just, you know, as we do this interactively. Right? I just think what you said was just so incredibly powerful.

Understanding the difference between inspiration and motivation.

It's huge.

It's that that that I just just just wanna just kinda peel that onion just a little bit because I think so many people out there get the two confused. Right? To your point, how many times have we been in a scenario or a situation where we went to a conference or something and we got inspired and then and then came home and did nothing with it? Right. You know?

And I I could see in my own life, you know, the difference between inspiration motivation. When I was in the military and the Navy as a welder, I didn't want to do that. I wanted to be working with computers and it was something that was driving me. I didn't know anybody who worked with computers. We talk about like '93.

Right. I didn't know anybody who can work, who worked with computers. I just knew that I had a passion and a drive to learn how to do this thing. Man, I had computer parts all over the house, just trying to figure out how to, you know, put together a PC and stuff, but it kept driving me and driving me and driving me until I figured out a way to get out of welding into being a help desk guy at Gateway two thousand computers. Right?

You know, in that that was the the leading into this career that I have today. But I mean, Terri, what what are your thoughts on that? I I just thought that was such a power point.

So, you know, I'm always tying something back with, you know, as I deal with my kids. Right? And so I'm a be super transparent here. I I think that's one of my that's one of the things I bring to this show. Right?

So, man, it was a big deal when Noah was like, dad, I'm gonna take a little break from this golf thing. I'm like, what? Okay, sure. But as I'm listening to Andrejko talk about the difference between inspiration and motivation, right, it's helping me understand really how to navigate that space, right, because you know, we first introduce our kids to things, right? And so their inspiration is probably our excitement about seeing them do something, right?

And then the motivation aspect really for them becomes, you know, I'm I'm I'm pleasing dad or pleasing mom. Well, you know, those of you who got teenagers, you know, that ends around 16. That's not interested in pleasing mom and dad anymore, bro. So

-Right. -So

you as a parent, right? And there's one thing about this show as well, right? We address the whole person. So, you know, we may be talking about these concepts, but they're they're actually, they extend in every aspect of our lives, right? So I use a lot of what we talk about and learn how I deal with my wife, how I deal with my friends, how I deal with my kids, whatever, right?

So I got adults essentially now. And so it's helping me understand that, you know what? Yeah, there is a place now where my son is at and his motivation and desire, right? I'm looking at understanding what Endricko is saying, right? And he used some words like skills and capabilities, right?

And so when I look at what my son is spending his time and getting better at, Right? He he is he is doing something. Right? And so I'm understanding that, he was inspired by whatever, whomever. Right?

Maybe his brother or one of his friends. Now he's developing skills around animation and coding and all these things, right? So it's and it's sustained. So it's helping me, okay, you know what? I see him doing that.

It is a passion. He's moving into the realm beyond inspiration. He's now you know, he's motivated to do it. But, you know and so it's just really helping me see him through these different phases and helping me understand, okay. Well, yeah, it's not that you know, he said that I'm I'm not giving up on golf forever, but I'm gonna take a break at it.

And he's now determining the value system of what he's putting his time in. And so I think, Endrico, that's kinda where you're you're kinda leading to is a value system. What are you gonna spend your time in doing and growing and what are you, you know, motivated and passionate about? Another one of the things that you you said earlier too, and I wanna circle back around on this, we can get to it, but it I'm intrigued about the philosophy of learning. You're not learning until you actually get close to the mastery.

Then now you really get to learn. I'm like, okay, I really wanna understand that philosophy. Because most times when people get close to master it, I don't wanna get too far ahead, but they believe that they I'm it now. I got it. That's a deep concept.

Yeah, it's something that blew my mind. Like when I first started, training my sensei, you know, he said that we, you know, in karate you do something called katas, right? And katas are just a set of movements. It looks like a dance. It really looks like a dance, but you're actually doing the movements within the dance, right?

So when you're very when you're beginning, when you're first beginning to learn something, you're just going through the motions. You have nothing to connect it to. It's not until you progress pretty far and he told me this, that you'll come back to this very simple movement and it'll mean so much more to you. Mhmm.

And

I'm like, I'm like, yeah, okay. At the time, I'm like, alright, yep, whatever you say.

Mhmm.

But I remember the day that it happened and it was well after I was teaching, you know, other other students that we were going through the movement and it was just the way that I was explaining it. I'm like, there's so much more here than just these movements.

Right? And

so it was a visualization. I I visualize myself doing the movements in certain ways and things. It was a visualization visualization that I would have not had in the beginning. Mhmm. It's a visualization that I didn't have when I was going along the journey.

It wasn't until that I had been through some things and I kind of seen this and seen that and made some mistakes and did all those things that we all do that I could then go back to the very beginning and admit something much more. So then when I'm doing the movements, I'm looking at it from a whole different perspective. Like each and every small movement means much more. I'm trying to be more precise. Right?

I'm trying to I'm trying to put more effort into it because I understand what it means. And that's me teaching myself that same basic movement all over again because now I really know what it means.

Mhmm. Wow. I'm give me give me five minutes, man. I'm trying to because so, you know, I'm just thinking through. Right?

Just okay. How do you effectively communicate, become an expert to learn all over again? Right? How does that yeah. How go ahead, Ralph.

I'm trying to trying to understand it, man, honestly.

I can see that and I can I can I think I can maybe say it this way where it definitely connects with you, Terry? Because because Terry's been teaching me golf for a long time. Right? Terry's way more advanced than than right of us. You're right.

You can hit I could say Terry Terry can hit a ball between two houses very accurately. That that I do. He

he knows that firsthand.

Right. But, you know, when you I remember, you know, just first starting to learn just all the posture, movements and how you had to stand and you know, where your head was and when trying to strike the ball. That's a lot of focus on just trying to learn one movement. But once you've mastered that movement, now you could see how you can use that movement to achieve something else that you never even thought was even possible. Right.

You know, you've achieved mastery, you know, in those areas to where those basic movements now you're relearning all over again. Like now I can use that movement to make this ball go left and then go right. Right? You know, all that other kind of stuff. Whereas we I'm still just trying to hit the ball right.

Trying to get off the tee.

Yeah. Makes total sense. Makes total sense. Makes total sense. No.

So that's that's great. That's great. And, Drek, I really I really appreciate that, man. That is I'm gonna chew on that, like, for a while. Thank you for joining Leadership Sovereignty the podcast.

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