TED recap. Pt. 5

Welcome, and thank you for tuning into the Leadership Sovereignty Podcast. I'm your host, Ralph Owens, along with Terry Miller. In today's episode, we'll answer questions such as what is the importance of asking great questions? What is the role of the coach? What are some things to look out for while being a coach?

And the spiritual significance behind the creator, challenger, and the coach. Enjoy the show.

I can't wait till we get because I've been I've been scribbling down here and I cannot wait till we wrap, you know, we get to end because I want to I'm writing some things down and I think I see some parallels and I definitely want to get your, input on it.

Okay. Okay. Just one more one more note about the challenger. So as you heard Terry and I, you know, repeat over and over again, the challenger's primary weapon is questions. And I won't call it a weapon because a weapon is made to destroy its primary tool because a tool made to build right.

Primary tool is asking questions. So we encourage you to develop your skill or creativity around asking questions. To Terry's point, you can still ask a question like a persecutor, Right. But when a question is made to build, made to make a person think is given out of love and out of patience and compassion. Right.

So we bought a book years ago called Good Leaders Ask Great Questions

Mhmm.

By John Maxwell. Yeah. Right? And it talks about this this whole perspective of being a challenger and using your questions creatively to cause a person to think and to use their own power. Right?

So that they don't look at themselves as a victim. So just wanted to want to cap that off on the challenger piece. So so moving to the to the final role, final persona is the coach. So the coach is the antidote to the rescuer persona. Right?

The coach leaves the power with the creator, but facilitates the personal growth. This is the one that's going to be with you day in and day out. So a challenger may come and just be in a conversation. You may be in a meeting and somebody is a challenger for you, but that coach is the one that's going to ride with you every day. Hey, how are doing?

How did it go today? Right. Okay. We, we, we got to pick this up. We got to do that.

I think there's some elements of the challenger in the coach as well, but I think the coach's position is not one of it being temporary but more for the long haul. Right? I think you call it the ride or die Terry, but what are your thoughts on that?

Yeah, it's critical. So here's the thing that I love about the coach. You know what the coach, these are the best coaches too. So on my teams, these technical teams that I lead, God has allowed me a breadth of experience in IT operations where I've been on a help desk. So when I go into the help desk, I can talk to those guys because I've done it.

I can go and talk to the guys who what we call the field service guys. These are the guys who are going from desk to desk. I've done that job. I can talk to the guys who have ran the SAN with storage, with all the terabytes and petabytes, I've done that job. I can go and talk to the network guys because I've been in a situation where I've had to do that job.

I can talk to Exchange guys, I can talk to the Citrix guys. We've done some everything. I can talk to the Azure guys. I've done that job. And so that's how I see the coach.

The coach is not just gonna give you theory.

That's good.

Because he And this is what I tell my teams, guys, I'm a player's coach. I'm a player's coach, what does that mean? I've been through it myself. So now as I'm walking you through this, I have real life experience that I can apply to the situation where you can say, well, ain't never seen this before. I have.

You haven't been through this. No, I done had a boss just like that.

That's right.

Two, to be exact. Two, I'd had two of them. So, and I think that is the beauty of that coach, right? Because I am going to be there with you. I am going to and here's the beauty about that coach too, sometimes the proximity will be shoulder to shoulder, sometimes it's, you know what, no, I'm a step outside the lines now and watch you walk this next mile by yourself.

Right? Because again, the coach so skillful has to be aware of the rescuer aspect. You have to be skilled in that coach role.

That's right.

Right? Because you don't want to be an enabler.

That's right.

To enable them to stay where they are from that standpoint, you wanna be an encourager to get them to where they are going what their desired outcome is. So that's how I feel about that.

Leaving the power with the creator, right? Just being there to help facilitate the personal growth over the long haul. So yeah, that's good. That's good. That's great.

So that's it. That's the dreaded drama triangle and the empowerment dynamic. Again, you have a victim and the antidote for that is the creator. You have a persecutor. The antidote for that is a challenger.

And then you have a rescuer and the antidote for that is a coach. Any closing thoughts on that Terry?

Raf, this just hit me man and I was taking notes on it as we were talking. So I really want to get your input on this. So as we wrap up, so of course there's a triune effect to the dreaded drama triangle and the anecdotes. I see that in the same way in our lives, We've already determined that the creator from a spiritual aspect is God. But we didn't talk about from a spiritual aspect who was the challenger and I'm gonna say Jesus is the challenger.

Okay. Oh yeah.

And let me share a scripture with you on why I feel that he serves in that role. So again, because the whole idea is so you can walk away from this situation, right? And I think we did hit on it, right, because we talked about Jesus asking questions.

He did, he was the best challenger out of all of us.

Who do men say I am?

That's right, that's right, yes sir, yes sir.

The kingdom is like this.

That's right, yes, Yes. And the challenger brings clarity. Right? You see what I'm saying? Yes.

Yes. Like like, you know, we talked about when he how about not even let's deal with who was the guy in the tree? Nicodemus. Wasn't it yeah, wasn't Nicodemus? He was he was a tax collector, right?

A tax collector. I thought it was

a different name. It'll come to me.

Yeah. Thought it Nicodemus but he started dealing with him, right? He dealt with him to the point where, you know what Nicodemus said? Man, look, anybody that I stole from, I'm giving you back twice if I'm not mistaken. The questions were so poignant and challenging, he was like, man, I've been treating my own.

Was that Zacchaeus?

Was it Zacchaeus? You're probably right. I think yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It may be. You know what? I'll take it up before we get out of here. And then I'm gonna say the coach, I'm gonna say the coach is the Holy Spirit.

Oh, you nailed that. You nailed that. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You nailed that.

So let me read this. John 1613. However, when he, the spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth for he shall not speak from himself, but whosoever he shall hear that shall he speak and he will show you things to come. You see what I'm saying? So basically what he's saying is look, I'm a guide you.

I'm a lead you.

Every day, every day riding with you every day and every moment. I oh, I love that. I love that. And I and I see the parallel in how God created us in his own image to be a creator. The challenger is the word because the word is challenging you to use your power that God gave you in the beginning.

Right? And and and the holy spirit, to your point, is facilitating the personal growth. Right? Because salvation and sanctification are two different things. Right?

He'll save you in an instant but sanctification could be a whole process. It takes time, you have to walk it out. Yeah, that's brilliant. Terry, that's brilliant.

Bro, it's a God thing man, that's all I can say. You know, I cannot take any other credit for this.

That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's good man. It challenges us all the more you dig into that word it is constantly the bible says it's sharper than a two edged sword. Right? Right? It's it's you all the time to become greater.

Right? To be the creator that God created us to be. Right. How do you tell a mountain to move? You have to be a creator.

Right? But he challenged us to believe that this is who we really are. Yeah. That's good, man. That is good.

That is good. I'm a chew on that all day. Yes sir. Yes sir. Yes sir.

So good.

Ralph, I'm just excited to be a part of this platform man and as we've discussed, our goal is really just to help everyone be the best version of themselves that they can be and to serve their gift to the world. Ralph, you were a 100% right, man. It was Zacchaeus. So, bro, I'm so glad you are a barber reader, and we have so much more to come.

Yeah, man. This has been a great one. Like we kind of talked about Terry, this is the foundation of everything else that we're gonna introduce, the concepts that we're gonna introduce. You can't do some of these other great things in leadership if you look at yourself as a victim. You are not a victim and we encourage you to tell yourself that daily.

Until the next time, take care and you guys be blessed.

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