April 18, 2024

The Empowerment Dynamic. Pt.5

The Empowerment Dynamic. Pt.5
The Empowerment Dynamic. Pt.5
Leadership Sovereignty Podcast
The Empowerment Dynamic. Pt.5
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In this episode answer questions such as; What is the role of the challenger? How does the challenger compare to the roll of the persecutor? What is the gift of clarity? And is there power in asking questions?★ Support this podcast ★

Speaker 1:

Welcome, and thank you for tuning into the Leadership Sovereignty Podcast. I'm your host, Ralph Owens, along with Terry Miller. In today's episode, we'll answer questions such as, what is the role of the challenger? How does the challenger compare to the persecutor? What is the gift of clarity?

Speaker 1:

And is there power in asking questions? Enjoy the show. Alright. So let's pick it up. Let's continue on with the next role.

Speaker 1:

So again, for the victim, you have the creator. For let's see which one is this matchup. I'll go ahead and read the next role. It's called the challenger role.

Speaker 2:

I like this role.

Speaker 1:

It says the challenger has many faces. The most common is the one who approaches others to take action. I'm sorry. The the most common is the one that who provokes others to take action. The challenger may be compassionate or confrontational or both.

Speaker 1:

A challenger calls forth a creator's will to create often spurring him or her to learn new skills, make difficult decisions or do whatever is necessary to manifest a dream or desire. Powerful role man, a challenger. Meaning that you're not gonna just sit back and let a person run the wrong way. You're gonna challenge them to become better. Right?

Speaker 1:

You're not gonna rescue them. You're gonna challenge them to rescue themselves. What comes the thought for you Terry when you hear that?

Speaker 2:

Man, when I hear that, I hear a really really good mentor because a mentor again, their job is to assess where you are based on where you say you wanna be and get Matter of fact, I was on a call today, man, I had a challenger on a call, buddy was challenging me, well, you you said this. And I'm like, well, I did, but I had to pivot. Because at the end of that call, it provoked action and it got me on the right path. At the end of the day, the challenger is designed to get you on the right path.

Speaker 1:

That's it.

Speaker 2:

They're gonna ask you some tough questions.

Speaker 1:

They are, they are.

Speaker 2:

Some tough questions and they're gonna hear you out. I love the fact that it said it could be, they can be compassionate, but they also can have a little edge too. The will be like, hey, you know what? You've been saying that too long. And we're still in the same place right now.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I wanna read this part. It says, even this kind of challenger bestows a great gift. Although it rarely feels that way. The gift is usually more of clarity showing you what you want or don't want. Yes.

Speaker 1:

That is the beautiful thing about a challenger. Yes. They're gonna challenge you with the right questions so that you gain clarity on what it is you want and what it is you don't want. What outcome you really want versus what outcome you really don't And I'm sure we all can identify a challenger in our lives. To Terry's point, a mentor.

Speaker 1:

Someone who's not afraid to question you, to question your logic, to challenge your thinking, to make you think through exactly what it is that you say that you really want to gain clarity. I love being a challenger.

Speaker 2:

So I had a conversation the other day with someone and they were, we were talking about being accountable and the person was sharing with me why I can keep myself accountable. I'm like, to a certain degree, to a certain degree. And so I started asking these questions. Well, you said you wanted to do A, how much time have you spent on A? You said you wanted to achieve B, How much energy have you been spending on promoting B?

Speaker 1:

And

Speaker 2:

what was so beautiful about the conversation, I said, hey, and I asked one more question and I said, so can you think about the Don't give me no answer. I walked away, let that person ponder for a while. And the person came back and was like, you know what, you're right. And so again, this is where the compassion came in though. I said, I knew you had it in you all along to come to that.

Speaker 1:

That's good.

Speaker 2:

Now it's on you to now act on what you You stopped being the victim, what you came to a conclusion of. All I did was ask the questions. You came to the conclusion. And that's, I'm telling you, man, for those who understand that you have the makeup and the character and the persona to be a challenger. A lot of times challengers, we have to be careful not to give the answer.

Speaker 1:

That's right.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead, Ralph. Go ahead.

Speaker 1:

I would say we talk about this all the time and I think we even talked about even having a podcast show on this whole topic about the power in asking questions. Right? So again, this role is an antidote for the persecutor. So instead of persecuting a person, you're actually challenging them to become better. You're helping them, you're enabling them to become better.

Speaker 1:

Right? And in some of the books that we've read, we've learned that people have egos. They think they know everything and especially if they feel like they're right on something. If you come at them directly as an approach to say no, you're wrong and you're thinking, that ego is like a it's like a guard or a brick wall to their mind. Right?

Speaker 1:

That ego is like at the century of their mind. It's the century of their mind and it's there to block any thought that's unlike its own. Right? So if you've ever gotten into an argument with a person who thinks they're right, the more you talk the more they don't hear you. Right?

Speaker 1:

Well, the way you get past the ego which is the guard of the mind is by asking a question. That's how powerful asking a question is. It past the ego, the guard of the mind and it plants a thought in a purchased conscious that makes them think that leads them to the right answer. And they think that they were the one who came up with the answer. Just like in your example Terry.

Speaker 1:

That's what's so beautiful about it. The power of asking questions is so underrated because pointing the finger at a person and telling them what to do is different than asking them a question that leads them to the right thing to do. Yes. That's good. And I always say, the greatest leader of us all always asks questions.

Speaker 2:

He did. Who do men say I am?

Speaker 1:

There it is.

Speaker 2:

There it is. Yes sir, yes sir. Here let me, so I love this. The challenger is a kind of teacher, teachers always ask questions, right? Who points towards life's lessons towards opportunities for growth embedded in the living of life.

Speaker 2:

That's beautiful. That is beautiful. Opportunities or growth embedded in the living of life.

Speaker 1:

Yes, got to go back to that for a second. So Jesus was the greatest of all of us. He had all power, He knew all things but yet He still asks questions. Why? Why?

Speaker 1:

Because it's the most effective way to get a person to think. He said, where's your husband? He already knew the answer to the question.

Speaker 2:

He did, did. Because he said it because the one you're talking about is not your husband and sure did the answer.

Speaker 1:

He was the smoothest one out of them all because he understood and he had every right to come in and demand things. But yet he still asked because using questions is a kind way to lead a person's thoughts to a desired outcome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and so Raf, I love what you the point you brought out though and this is now this is of course Jesus was the first Jedi but he asked questions he already knew the answer to.

Speaker 1:

All the time.

Speaker 2:

But didn't didn't ask them in a condescending way. Right? He asked them in a way to provoke thinking. Yes. Yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes. Let me let you think about your situation.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, yes, yes and yes. Oh, we can just die. Can go down a hole on this one. We can go down a hole on this one. Thank you for listening to the Leadership Sovereignty Podcast.

Speaker 1:

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