The first time manager. Pt. 6

Welcome to Leadership Sovereignty. I'm your host Terry Baylor along with Ralph Owens. Today, we'll answer questions on the relational domain and what are the five levels of relationships, How being isolated is not a strategy for success? What is the purpose of wealth? What does it mean to be battle tested?

What is the value of wisdom? And why asking for mentorship is your responsibility? Enjoy the show. And I wanna make sure though too, I don't lose sight of the fourth one here but I think we've really hit on it. That fourth domain is the relational and I think again, in previous episodes we've dealt with it, having sponsors and having mentors.

I think it's also important to have what I will call a partner. You have contacts, those are just people that you occasionally run into. You have associates. Associates are folks that you have things in common with. You may go to a baseball game with, you may go have lunch with, but then you have a partner.

That's someone who is, look, you didn't ran out of gas. This is the person you go call to come pick you up.

Right, right, right. You didn't

left your wallet at home and you need lunch. Oh, I got

that's right.

And then of course we've already dealt with what a mentor is. Then you also have a mentee. Again, those are the levels to this. So at a certain point, you guys are gonna be leading someone else. Along that aspect of relationship, we have to nurture.

Feel so Ralph, I think about it every day, I'm like, how does this dude live less than ten minutes for me?

I know, it's crazy.

It crazy. And I'm like, God, got first of all, thank you to Ralph's point. I thank I'm like, God, thank you for Ralph being in my life. But then it leads me to believe, God, you got something in mind. You have to, mean, how can we it's been since 2007, this thing is going on, man, we're coming up on twenty years.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy, man. It is crazy.

And I just thank God for that. I was just telling my wife, I said, you know what? Ralph has challenged me in so many ways. I said, here's the other beauty, Ralph and I, our relationship has been able I think about Ralph the way I think about my childhood friends, like guys who We grew up in church together from knee high. I have a couple friends still like that, that I'm like, Ralph was in that boat with me.

That's how intimate Man, I've shared some stuff with him that man, I needed some counseling, I needed some support, I needed some input. So you got to have people in your life. I was listening to something today and what the topic was about is when you quite honestly, aren't the best version of yourself. What does the enemy quote unquote, or what does life want you to do? Just like Adam and Eve, it wants you to go cover up and hide.

It wants you to isolate yourself because in that place, there's no help. In that place, there's no hope. So man, I would just encourage you to definitely nurture, nurture relationship. It is the key to winning in life really.

I mean Terry you said it perfectly. If you wanna win in this life, you cannot do it by yourself. As much as we try to tell ourselves that we can, we cannot. And just to take it on a deeper spiritual level, I mentioned this to you the other day, Terry, that the whole purpose of wealth is to bless other people. So everything you need is gonna come through somebody else.

Embrace it. The faster you embrace that and the faster you start to develop yourself and your ability to have relationships with people, the more your gift will make room for you. Right? But it comes through the people that you're connected to. Right?

So I think that was another lesson for us as well is that we just can't do it by ourselves. We were not designed and not created to do it by ourselves. Nope. Right? That now does that mean that you are loose with your relationships?

Absolutely not. You have to you know, you have to, you know, be I I won't say guarded, but you you definitely need to be prayerful about, know, who you let in your space and who you don't. But you have to have that partner that you can talk to and be transparent with that can speak into your life and that you allow to speak into your life so that you have somebody that could tell you, hey, you being a knucklehead. You need to listen. If you mad at everybody in the world and you don't have nobody that could talk to you, you're gonna get stuck.

I think you're gonna say something.

No, I would say the term we use in this house hasn't been battle tested. Because here's the deal, hey, let me be honest with you all. Ralph and I ain't seen out out on everything.

No, not all.

That's the beauty of the relationship.

That's right.

Because he can say Terry, I don't know about that. But I'm like, no Ralph, I'm standing on this. All right T, I'm a go let you do I'll come back Ralph man, you know what, I was thinking about it. But here's the beauty, the beauty of it is, look, if you looking, if the only relationships that you can have are those that people can agree with you and you can't be challenged, your ideology or your preferences can't be challenged. Then again, I don't know if you're giving yourself an opportunity for that relationship to be battle tested.

Mean, look, let me say this, and I've had every opportunity. We didn't work together, we didn't do music together, we didn't golf together. Man, what else? We didn't Ralph T, I'm over here punching holes and Ralph's wall. Hey, man, let me hang that up.

You see what I'm saying? So we've had a lot of opportunities and this is what's been rich. And I think this is one of the things that Ralph Ralph, this is what I love about it most. I have six brothers. Man, dude, can't tell you how many back and forths I'd have with my brother, but that's it.

You know what? I love my brothers. So when I think about our relationship, it is that same way. It's been battle tested. It doesn't Again, I gotta be to say, hey man, I don't know about that.

He has to be able say the same to the point where we trust each other so, we've allowed each other to speak into really some of the most intimate places of our lives with our families.

You see

what I'm saying? We share things about our families things of that nature. So man, hey, trust the process and really, again, as Ralph said, be prayerful about it. You have to let it go through the process, man. It's gotta be battle tested at the end of the day for you to really get the value out of it.

Yeah, yeah. And just wanted to also just retouch back on the point about the mentorship, man. You can't put a value on that. You absolutely cannot put a value on it. A mentor has the ability to see who you are and to give you context that you could have never even thought about.

I was on a call with a mentor today. I met him last April. I've been trying to get into his calendar since last April. He's very successful at a very, very big company and we were just able to connect today. And in thirty minutes, I was telling Terri this, in thirty minutes this dude completely blew my mind with the things that he hit me with.

All because he's further down the line than I am. And he knows where I'm at and he's hitting me with context that I could have never thought about by myself on my own. I probably would have eventually came across it, but the And I tell this to my kids all the time. You know what the value of my wisdom is? Time and money.

It saves you time and it keeps you from wasting money trying to figure out something that you ain't gonna figure out. That thirty minute conversation probably put me five years down the line. That's how impactful that was for me. But I think it is having the right mentor. The person who want a couple things.

Number one, they had to have already walked in your shoes. They have whether it be technically or from a leadership perspective or whatever the case may be, they have to have results. Right? That's number one. Number two, they have to wanna pour into you.

Right? Because you have some bad people out there who try to give you bad information because they don't want you to become as good as they are. Right? But this individual, he looks like me. He looks like us.

He's in a very, very high position. And he wanted to make sure that I had some good information to help me become successful. You get those two things, man, you cannot put a value on the ability to to tap have into a person's experiences. This person has been in the game for forty years. Able to tap into that experience over a thirty minute conversation and they put me five years down the line.

Things that I wasn't even thinking about that's now on my radar like, okay, I gotta go get that. Right? The power of a mentor and sponsors are it's just priceless. So you gotta get and I leave with this, Mentorship some people think that mentorship is, oh, man, somebody gonna come, they gonna put their own ramen, they gonna take me under my wing. I asked this guy, would he mentor me?

Look, I'm at a conference with a thousand people. I see him standing on the side of a wall because he got his phone plugged in because his phone died, but he had to take a call from work. He's one of the me and him are one of the only probably four people who look like us in this whole conference. I was patient. I kept walking by until I saw him get off the phone.

I was like, hey man, I know you don't know me, but I'm new in this executive role. I see that you've been in it for a while. I just want to know if you'd be interested in spending some time mentoring me. And he was like, absolutely. And you know what?

Everybody I've ever asked that question to said the exact same thing. Absolutely. You know why? Because most people won't ask. Right.

Most people wait for it to happen organically, almost like a friendship. And if you maybe in another episode we could talk about it, but even friendships take work. Right? These sponsorships and these mentors and stuff, and going back to Teresa who we mentioned in another episode before, she was the one that taught me that. She said, you have to be willing to go out and ask for the mentorship, the sponsorship.

Right? I mean, what's the worst they can say is no. Most people who are successful, they wanna give it away. Right? All they waiting for is somebody to ask.

So don't don't be afraid to get out there and ask. You see somebody that's successful, go talk to You ain't got nothing to lose.

Now that's good stuff, man. Great information, Ralph. Information, man. I can't wait. Guys, hey, it is just getting better, better and better and better each week.

So excited about it. Talk to you guys next time.

All right, take care.

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