May 12, 2025

How Emotional Intelligence Can Transform Your Leadership (Part 4)

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In this episode, Terry Baylor and Ralph Owens discuss the critical role of emotional intelligence (EQ) in leadership, teamwork, and career success. They explore how EQ can foster a positive workplace culture, build trust and collaboration within teams, and aid in conflict resolution. The conversation emphasizes the importance of self-awareness and understanding one's triggers to enhance job performance and personal growth. The hosts also recommend key resources for developing emotional intelligence.Takeaways-Emotional intelligence is essential for effective leadership.-Leaders should aim to be a thermostat, setting the tone for their teams.-Creating a positive work culture is fundamental to team success.-Trust is built gradually but can be lost quickly.-Conflict resolution is enhanced through emotional intelligence.-Character and capacity must be balanced for effective leadership.-Emotional intelligence contributes to job fulfillment and performance.-Life experiences shape our emotional responses and interactions.-Understanding personal triggers is crucial for effective communication.-Continuous assessment and development of emotional intelligence are vital. Chapters00:00 The Role of Emotional Intelligence in Leadership06:10 Building Trust and Collaboration through EQ12:59 Assessing and Developing Emotional Intelligence

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I didn't come up with it, but
you can be a thermostat or a

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barometer, right?
That's.

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A good.
One, yeah.

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So what I prefer to be is the
thermostat, right.

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As a leader, I don't necessarily
want to tell the temperature.

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I want to be the one setting the
temperature.

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And I think we have a lot of
opportunity to talk about that.

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Welcome to leadership
Sovereignty.

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I'm your host, Terry Baylor,
along with Ralph Owens.

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On today's show, we'll discuss
how EQ Emotional Quotient can

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impact your leadership, teamwork
and career success.

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Enjoy the show.
And we are live.

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Hello world.
Welcome to another episode of

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Leadership Sovereignty.
Terry, how you feeling today?

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Good morning everybody.
Let's get to it all.

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Right, all right, we are in
episode 4 of How emotional

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intelligence Can Transform Your
Leadership.

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In this episode, we're going to
talk about emotional

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intelligence in the workplace.
So our first topic is emotional

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intelligence and leadership.
So when we talk about

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leadership, you can't miss the
the importance of emotional

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intelligence for leaders.
You know, one of the things that

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come to mind for me is it's
essential to lead the people

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that you are that you are
leading, right, in order for you

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to be a good leader.
As your emotional intelligence

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develops, you connect better
with them.

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I mean, what what comes to mind
for you, Terry on that?

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I'll say this, right, There's a,
there's a saying that I like to

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use.
I didn't come up with it, but

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you can be a thermostat or a
barometer, right?

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That's.
A good one.

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Yeah.
So what I prefer to be is the

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thermostat, right?
As a leader, I don't necessarily

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want to tell the temperature.
I want to be the one setting the

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temperature.
And I think we have a lot of

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opportunity to talk about that
in terms of where we are today,

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where culture is, all the
influences that we have, right?

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There's so many things vying for
our attention.

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And are we basically a letting,
allowing those things to set our

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barometer right?
You know what, how did you start

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your morning right?
There's so many.

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It's, it's, it's a lot in there.
It's a lot in there.

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Yeah, that's good.
That's really good, really good.

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So, so how do we create a
positive and supportive work

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environment, you know, with EQ?
I mean, what comes to mind for

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you there too when you get
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Again, right, it's about the
culture, right?

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What, what, what culture are are
you trying to foster?

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Right.
We've seen and heard, you know,

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there are cultures built on
fear.

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There are cultures built on
teamwork.

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There are cultures built on the
mission, right?

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So, yeah, I, I think it, it all,
it all boils down to what kind

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of culture are you trying to
build?

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And, and, and fundamentally,
right.

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We yeah, I've said this before
in previous in a previous

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episode, who you are in your
room is who you are everywhere,

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essentially right now.
You may dial it down outside of

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your room, but believe me,
there's bleed.

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Yeah.
Absolutely, yeah.

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So you can't you're, you're not
a totally different person.

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You can fake it so so long, but.
Let the right.

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Situation arise, right?
That's a real you.

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Right people.
All the time I did, I didn't.

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I didn't.
I couldn't believe I did that.

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Yes, you just.
Yeah, it was always there.

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Yeah, it was always there.
That's good.

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That's good.
That's good.

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I think to, you know, better
understanding those who report

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to you make it easier for you to
create their culture, right?

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You know, when you leave with
empathy and you get on the other

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side of the table and you
understand where they're coming

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from, it helps you to create a
culture that is more impactful

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to them.
No, that's, that's, that's

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excellent, man.
That's good stuff.

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What about emotional
intelligence with teamwork?

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You know, talk about how EQ
builds trust to collaboration.

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You know what comes to mind for
you for that.

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You know, team is big for me,
right?

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People often refer to me as a
coach, right?

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I have, you know, of course you
guys know, you know, my kids

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play sports and do all these
things and you know, kids call,

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you know, my kids are like, hey,
Liz T, is your dad practicing

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today?
There's a reason why they want

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to be in those environments.
The reason why they want to be

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in an environment because it's
one that's building them and

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challenging them, right?
I, you know, when, when, when

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we're out there, it's about
getting better.

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And if there is a, if there is
an opportunity or a space that

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needs improvement, we call that
out.

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But there's a way to call it
out, right?

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There's a way that you can do it
that in that in that inspires

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someone to be the best version
of themselves.

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So that's what comes to mind for
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That's good, that's great,
that's excellent.

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I know, you know, the things
that come to mind for me is, you

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know, as we continue to, you
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get on the other side of the
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It just builds building block
foundations of trust, right?

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You know, and collaboration is
built on that.

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You know, you're not going to
collaborate with people that you

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don't trust.
You know, we talked about that

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earlier in the show, Terry.
You can build trust by the

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droplet, but you lose about a
bucket full, right?

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Each moment that you have and
each opportunity that you have

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that you employ EQ to reach
people, you build, you know, the

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foundation of trust in that
relationship, which is needed in

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the workplace, especially for
collaboration, right?

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Because trust always leads to
collaboration.

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But what about resolving
conflicts?

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You know, we talked a little bit
about, you know, conflict

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resolution and, and, and EQ's
ability to help assist with

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that.
Any anything come to mind for

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you, Terry?
Yeah, so and and I think we hit

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on this a little bit before,
right.

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So, you know, a lot of times
people want to lean on their

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they want to be built, build on
their intellect, right?

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So in the book emotional
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capacity, right?
So we typically want to lean on

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our capacity.
The question is, how much

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character though, are we trying
to lean on, right?

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So that's what that's what comes
to mind for me, right?

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So and, and, and, and in the
book, Daniel Goldman basically

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said that those who have high
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there is an imbalance, right?
So, yeah, on the capacity side,

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they're amazing.
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that's where we start to get the
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mistreating of people, the the
writing of unjust policies,

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right?
And things of that nature.

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But here's the here's here's
the, here's the.

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Here's the.
Here's the key to that, though.

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Those who are of high capacity
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character and low capacity,
their ability to to run their

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domains suffer.
So we can't have an unbalanced

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aspect of capacity and
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We want to develop both, right?
Both we want to, we want to

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operate at a high level in both
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character, character and
capacity.

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That's funny.
That's excellent.

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That is excellent.
That's excellent.

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So, you know, as we look at the
EQ and career success, I mean,

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that ties directly into that,
right character and capacity and

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EQ, using EQ to build that.
So as we talk about the impact

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of emotional intelligence on job
performance, I mean, one of the

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things that that comes to mind
for me is that EQ will help you

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feel more fulfilled in your job,
right?

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Because you make more meaningful
connections with the people that

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you're actually working with.
Instead of you always trying to

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figure out or be in opposition
with people, Now that you're

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being able to make connections
with them, you can actually lead

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them, right?
You can actually influence.

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We talked about what is the
leadership?

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Leadership is influenced.
You can actually influence them.

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But you know what?
What comes to mind for you to

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when you talk about emotional
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performance?
Yeah, I think I love this area,

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right?
A lot of times the first day

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that came to mind for me was
Game of Thrones, right?

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We going to work like in Game of
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We speak, we we go into we go
into work like it's Big Brother,

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right alliances and you know,
all the things that happen,

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they're right.
And we understand that anytime

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you have people in a scenario,
right, you're going to have the

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politics of life, right.
There's you can't get around

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that.
Is that our main goal and focus

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though, right.
So I want to introduce another

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book and we'll talk about this
in the past too, right.

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So Bill George, I love his
story.

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Look, look him up.
He was the CEO.

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Well, I want to say Mantronics
if I'm if I'm calling the right

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corporation, but he did some
amazing stuff with it, right?

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A ticket from a four billion
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anyway.
And then I also want to because

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these guys kind of have a very
similar approach, the owner of

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Starbucks, right?
And so basically what they're

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what they're talking about is
your life influences are going

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to impact how you say the world.
So, so how does, how did that

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tie into, you know, my career
success?

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It, it, it means everything
because basically what they're

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saying is your core drivers come
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So what I want, what I want to
encourage everyone to do is look

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back at your look back at your
story, right?

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And how you see yourself in your
story is how your story plays

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out is how you engage, right?
It's how you interact, right?

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So if you, and, and it's not to
say that any of our backgrounds

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are better than the other or any
of our experiences are better

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than the other, it's to
understand.

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And Ralph, you say this all the
time, you got to understand your

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triggers.
Absolutely.

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Yeah.
So important.

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So, so let's let's, let's let's
be real candid.

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If you in a situation that
wasn't very trusting, then that

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means you're going to have to
pay a little bit more attention

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to how you interact, you know,
with folks.

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Me and my wife was just having a
conversation the other day and

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we were, we were discussing in a
person and, and, and my wife was

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like, I just, it was something
about the person that I just

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couldn't put my finger on it.
And I told that I said, I

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already know.
I said from the moment I met

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this person, they reminded me of
this individual and I'm not

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going to call the name out.
And when I, when I said that to

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my wife, she was like, yes,
because all the words sound

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right, but they're disconnected
from the person because it just

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seems like they are like, it's
like AI.

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It's like someone fed them the
information in and then they

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just regurgitated it back out,
right.

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You know, we've all used AI.
You know, sometimes you put a

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prompt in AI and it just comes
back with this thorough answer.

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No personality, right?
No character, no, no feel or, or

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human that, you know, human
nature.

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And so my wife basically said,
that's what I get from that

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person.
I say, yeah, I've got it from

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the very first time we met.
And I was denying what I felt

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because I didn't want first, the
experience I had with that other

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individual wasn't so pleasant,
right?

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And just because of how they
would would carry out things,

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you know, we we succeeded.
But it was just, it was just, it

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was just, dude, it was pushing
the boulder up the hill because

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you had to decipher and figure
out and, and you know how it is

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when you have to make up for
somebody's shortcomings, right

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all the time.
Now it's OK.

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Some of the.
Time.

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Some of the time, right?
Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah.
So anyway, that's that's what

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comes to mind for me.
That's good, man.

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That, that is really good.
That's really good.

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So that the context isn't until
our, our final point for the

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show, which is, you know,
emotional intelligence

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assessments and development by,
you know, just how critical it

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is for you to constantly be
assessing your emotional

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intelligence level and ability,
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And the, and the importance of
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into developing it.
Right.

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Terry, I mean, you, you gave
some roots, some excellent

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recommendations on books.
You want to you want to just

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touch on what those were again
because those are the things

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that resources that we can use
to develop ourselves.

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Yes, so there was emotional
intelligence and I I mentioned

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Mr. Daniel who who wrote that
book.

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And then there is True North by
Bill, Bill George.

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Yeah, just just just just great
books.

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You know, I would also, I'd be
remiss, Ralph, if I'm looking at

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my notes here, I'd be remiss if
we didn't mention, you know, how

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to win friends and influence
people.

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I mean, that's and I, you know
that, you know, you, you

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recommended me that book.
Yeah.

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That started it.
That started it all.

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That is a legendary.
You know, it's, it's great to

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start there.
Yeah, yeah, that's great.

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That's great.
That's great.

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I also would add how to have
power and influence when dealing

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with people.
The the author's name escapes me

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right now, but it was it was
another great book that'll help

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you develop your emotional
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But yeah, no, this is good, This
is good, This is great.

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Episode 4 and we are looking
forward to our final episode in

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this series, episode 5, but
we'll talk about emotional

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intelligence for Personal group.
Until next time, thank you for

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tuning in and God bless and we
will see you on the net.

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Alright, Ralph.
Hey man, you did a great job on

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the road, bro.
I love it.

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I love it.
Technology at its best.

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At its best.
Talk next week, Bye.

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