The Whisper That Changes Everything

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Imagine you've achieved
everything you wanted.

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The title, the success, the
respect.

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But lately there's a whisper
inside that says, but wait,

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there's more.
For Brenda Battle, that whisper

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became a turning point.
After leading billion dollar

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health initiatives and mentoring
top executives all over the

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country, she realized her next
season wasn't about achieving,

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it was about evolving.
In this conversation, Brenda

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opens up about humility, faith,
and the courage to leave comfort

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for calling, and why ignoring
that whisper might cost you your

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next level of purpose.
Let's dive in.

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Hello everybody, thank you for
joining us today.

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We are super duper excited about
today's podcast because I don't

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know about anybody else, but I'm
looking for my life to be

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changed.
This is a monumental moment for

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us.
Brenda, I don't know if you know

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this or not, but you are the
first woman to be a guest on

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leadership sovereignty.
And just let me just set the let

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me just set the, let me set the
foundation for that, right?

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When Ralph and I first set out
to this, right, we, you know, in

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the rooms that we're in, we
realized they're not a lot of

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guys that look like us in these
rooms.

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And we stumbled, ran in the
brick walls, ran in the glass

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doors that we didn't.
Glass ceilings.

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All these things, right?
And so our goal was, hey, you

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know, we've been talking for
years, let's write a book.

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And then we were just out
getting coffee one day and we

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were like, hey, let's, let's do
a podcast.

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And so we were like, hey, let's
talk to the brothers and let's

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share with them our experiences.
Well, on this journey, our

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audience started to expand and
we started to get feedback.

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And really what we learned and
you know, this leadership is for

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everybody, right, Regardless of
who you're targeting.

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Look, when it's, it's a
universal language and the

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principles apply to everyone.
And so, you know, we've got

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great feedback.
So thank you for being our guest

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today.
I'm happy to be the inaugural

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female on the show, happy to be
on the show.

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So it's not the first time I was
the inaugural female.

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See.
See.

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History repeats itself.
History repeats itself.

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I heard someone say that and
this really touched me.

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And I'm sure we'll, we'll, we'll
expound on this.

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He his, what he said, he said
history doesn't repeat itself,

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but it does rhyme.
I'm like, oh, that is.

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Great.
Yes, it sure does.

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And so we want to make sure that
the way we're rhyming, right and

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flowing is going to help, you
know, help us help others and,

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you know, just movement society
along, right, So we can be

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better.
We don't, we can be better.

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I'm just going to say that.
And so that topic today, though,

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is I love this and, and the book
that we're going to be talking

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about.
I've referenced it before

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because I'm like my mentor.
That's another thing that makes

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this special, right?
Brenda mentored me, still

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mentors me and, and, and where I
am today is attributed to a lot

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of what she shared with me.
Some, you know, a mentor is

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going to give you some hard
lessons, man, you got to have

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to, you got to, you got to have
to have some, you know, get

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those emotions off those
sleeves.

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That's right, right?
And and I appreciated that,

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right, because when someone talk
to you in love, yes, it will, it

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will, it can be received and it
will change you.

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So again, what we want to talk
about today, though, is today

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what when you get to that point,
right when you hear that quiet

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whisper that says you can do
more, there's more for you to

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do.
That's the topic of discussion

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today, that inner voice where
you are like, I'm, I'm good at

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what I'm doing now, but should I
be doing something different?

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Should I be doing more?
Am I comfortable?

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So, so Brenda, I guess the, you
know, for you, how does that,

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you know, when you hear that,
you know, what does that do or

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what, how did you get to that
point, right?

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What was it for you that when
you realized, and I got a story

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around that too, right?
Because there's so many

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intersections here, I can't wait
to share.

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But how did you you know?
How did How did that happen for

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you?
Yeah, you know, like all my

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career at least and I and I
would say some part aspects of

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just life in general, the need
to do more was always kind of

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this.
Inner feeling.

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Sometimes I got to where I felt
like I did as much as I could do

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in certain places and it was
time to move on.

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You know, sometimes I got
invited by people to come and do

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other things, but sometimes it
was just an unction in my spirit

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and and and and in that I didn't
always know what the more was

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all that had to be revealed in
some way or the other, some way

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or the other.
But but I always felt it in my

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spirit.
I've always felt with I always

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knew when the chapter was
closing.

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A friend of mine few years ago,
we worked together several years

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ago before I I came to use
University of Chicago said to me

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reminded me that a year before I
left that organization.

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I told her in another year I'm
not going to be here now.

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I had nothing plan to do.
I wasn't looking for a job.

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And I don't even know at the
moment why I said that.

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I just felt in my spirit that I
wasn't going to be there, that I

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was getting to a point that I
just needed more that that that

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it was time to move on.
And sure enough, almost a year

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to the date, I was invited to
come to University of Chicago

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Medicine to do the more there.
So it's always been kind of an

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auction that it's time to move
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That you did you.
You finish the chapter, you

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close the book.
It's time to go on and do the

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next thing.
Sure, sure.

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That is, and so I don't I don't
want to skip this right.

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So Brenda, you are an amazing
person on so many levels and

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just want to give the audience,
you know, just a few of the

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things that you've done.
You know, of course, see sweeter

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right.
National HealthEquity Leader

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man, I'd I love this part here
right because we all know that

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the Bible says money answered
with all things over 200 million

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raised for community health
initiatives.

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Now listen to I want to say this
too.

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We reference the Bible here,
right?

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So if if if you know that we
don't separate, you know a good.

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It's the only way I operate
because that is by my faith that

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I've been able to do what God
has allowed me to do.

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That's awesome and then great.
And that leads us to man,

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lifetime achievement award, man,
an advisor, a global speaker.

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We just, we want to dig into all
of that and understand how those

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experiences have changed you,
how being in those rooms,

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speaking, you know, with man,
I'm sure you've been in a room

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and you look and go.
That's so and so, yes.

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And I'm and I'm right there with
them.

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Yeah, right.
And I got nervous for the moment

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and then prayed my security,
saying, Lord, help me to do what

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you sent me here to do.
Yes, that is, that is, that is

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amazing.
That is amazing.

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So, so let's let's, let's dig,
let's dig a little bit into,

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let's just dig a little bit into
the next level, right?

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Scott Ebblin, he's, he's the
author of that book.

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And he says that leaders must
let go of what got them there.

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Yeah.
Kind of kind of dig into that,

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right, because you had done
especially after you've

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accomplished things, right?
How do you, what do you let go?

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What do you hold on to?
What do you, you know, how do

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you revisit those stories,
right, to build a platform to

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move you to the next level, kind
of share with that, because I'm

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sure we have.
And, and here's what makes this,

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this session amazing as well,
right?

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Because, you know, we want you
to speak to the person who is,

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you know, they've been the
executive leader for 10-15

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years, right?
And you know they're, you know,

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you get, I don't want to stay
comfortable, but you know what

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you're doing, right?
You're the expert, right?

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How do you how I'll ask this
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How do you deal with yourself
when you know you're the expert?

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Yeah.
Well, so in leadership, every

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new leadership responsibility is
a new job.

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It's a new responsibility.
So what happens is in your last

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role.
You.

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Were able to learn new things,
you were able to make new, build

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new relationships, gain new
wisdom and all of that.

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It becomes like a stacking.
And that's how I've seen it all

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my career, that these things
stacked up for me so that I can

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take them into the next
leadership role, but not rely on

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them completely.
Because in that new leadership

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role, there are new things that
I have to learn, new

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relationships that I have to
build, new wisdoms that I have

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to gain.
And I can leverage the stacking

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of what I learned before.
But I better be ready to realize

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that it's not that that you have
to depend on you have to depend

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on being ready for the new
things that you have to do in

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that new role.
So what you have to let go of is

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this idea that you are the
expert, You're the expert.

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You bring in some expertise, but
the reason you're in the new

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role is that they need you to
apply that expertise to the new

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stuff.
So you can do new stuff and be

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grain new ex greater expertise.
And so you can't go in with the

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arrogance of I'm the expert.
You are a subject matter expert.

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Yes, that got you there, but
that's not what's going to keep

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you there because you came to a
new bigger role that you better

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get bigger and newer with or
else you're not going to keep

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being the expert.
It's.

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So rough that you.
Got to let go of.

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Yeah.
You got to make sure you cut.

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Cut that one man.
You got to get bigger and

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better.
Yeah, Yeah, absolutely,

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absolutely.
Follow up question on that.

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At what point in your career did
you was the aha moment that what

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got me here is not going to make
me successful in this role and

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that I have to go into this
looking for the things that I

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need to learn and accelerate my
learning so that I can compete

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at the highest level?
You know, like God has always

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placed me into these new roles
that I didn't do before.

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Like I didn't do that before
when I when I went over to a

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Barnes Church hospital in Saint
Louis, I had not done.

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I went over there to stand up
there center focusing on

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reducing health disparities and
creating, creating a more

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diverse and inclusive.
I'd never done that.

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Now I'd never done it formally.
You did some of that as a

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leader.
You're you know, you're, you're

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advocating for you know, others,
you're advocating for

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marginalized populations.
You're doing all of that, but

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you hadn't done it formally.
So I'd never done that job

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before.
So I'm saying, OK, Lord, I've

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got some skills I'm going to
take in here, but I never did

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this job.
This didn't do this job before

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actually formally.
So I had to learn to do that

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job.
And So what was humbling about

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that experience is I had to go
and learn how to do that

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specific work from folks that
weren't in the industry that I

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was in, who had been doing it
longer than me, and bring it in

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with the experience that I had
in the healthcare industry and

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shake that for that industry.
Then I left there and came to

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you Chicago Medicine, and took
over Michelle Obama's role.

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And guess what?
I hadn't done that either, not

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fully.
I've done aspects of it, but not

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all of it.
And then I had to like, and this

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is where, you know, raising
money and and all of that.

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I hadn't done that.
God had to like plant me in

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places.
It's very humbling when he does

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this where you don't know, oh,
you don't have all the skills

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that it takes to do the job.
You have some skills.

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How the way can we?
Can we just let's focus there

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for a little bit because I think
as and that and I want to, I

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want to kind of get really
specific on that.

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I believe we have a double
whammy when it comes to that as

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being African American leaders.
And so can we just dig into that

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a little bit because you always
have that little thing saying,

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do they do they really do they
trust me?

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Yeah.
You know, do I trust you have a?

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Little bit of sleep pastor
syndrome too.

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Yeah.
Wondering is am I really the

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one?
You know, you start sometimes

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questioning yourself, am I the
one that ought to be doing this?

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Which is I'm so glad that I I'm
a person of faith because you

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know what?
When I asked myself that God

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answers that for me, I sent you
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Yeah, you're the one.
Quit asking that.

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You know, I'm, I'm, I'm glad you
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So I told Shamika Ralph, I said,
Shamika, we need to do, we need

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to do us because I walk with
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So we'll talk.
I'm like, honey, we, you know,

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we may have to start
broadcasting.

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I'll walk and talk because she
said, because we were talking,

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right?
And I said, you know, these last

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10 years that I've been in
Houston, the only thing that

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doesn't change are our
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and our preferences are minimum.
That's good, adaptable.

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You have to be able to that's.
Adaptable.

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That's a better word, yeah.
Yeah.

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That's good, that's good, that's
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You gotta have some wisdom and
you have to have some

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experience.
And I'm going to harp on the

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word humility.
You've got to have some humility

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because sometimes the wisdom
doesn't come from you and your

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experience.
It has to come from other folks,

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mentors and other people who
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And so your ability to adapt
sometimes has to, you know,

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makes you have to go out and
find somebody and listen and

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learn and then adapt.
Interesting.

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That's that's good.
That's good.

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So, so I love the, the piece
that you talked about moving

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into spaces that you may not
have already had the familiarity

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with, but there's a reason why,
you know, outside of God opening

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the door, right?
There's a reason why people are

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attracted to you and make you or
make you available or want to

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want you to be available for
these opportunities, right?

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Can you talk a little bit about
the human connection that you

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have to really develop as a as a
leader that could open up those

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doors like that?
Yeah, yeah.

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You know, this thing about not
burning bridges is a real deal.

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Doesn't mean that you don't
stand up.

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You know, if somebody is like
being unjust, it doesn't mean

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you don't correct when people
are not right.

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It doesn't mean you do that, but
you can do that in relationship

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with people.
And so this, this and what what

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happens is people get a tract it
to your consistency in the

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relationship and that
consistency that you display

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regardless of how you know what
you have to do in that

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relationship.
That's what attracts people to

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you.
That's what says that's the

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person who I want to come and do
this because the one thing that

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person is is consistent.
I know I can trust that person

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and I know that person is
experienced and skilled and can

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do these things.
Doesn't matter.

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They they can't do everything.
They know you're able.

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You have enough in your in your
in your toolkit to be able to

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execute on what it is that they
have asked you to come for.

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But you've got to be a
relationship through consistency

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and trust.
That's good, that.

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Is and so, so let me, let me,
let me just throw a story on

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there, right and this I can't
make this up.

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I cannot make this up.
So we had been living here in

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Houston maybe three years maybe.
And so we get a new neighbor,

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right?
And so they have a couple

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daughters.
So my daughter's excited about

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it because we're like, all
right, girls in the

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neighborhood.
So of course we go down and

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introduce ourselves.
And the young lady was like,

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yeah, I moved.
I moved from Chicago.

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I'm like, really?
I'm like, OK, I got, I said my

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mentor lives in Chicago and I
said, I said she works at the

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University of, you know, Chicago
minister.

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She was like, I worked there.
I'm like, really?

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I said, do you know Brenda
Battle?

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She was like, yes, I love
Brenda.

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She is.
So I'm like, OK, I can't make

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this up.
So you're consistently it, it

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traveled, traveled to Houston.
Thank you for that.

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Yes, yeah, that is.
So important.

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That's a real story, guys.
Like, I'm not kidding.

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That's a real story.
That's awesome.

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That's awesome.
That's awesome.

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Was there, was there a question?
Was there ever a moment for you,

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even in success, that you felt
like, you know what I I have

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just done everything I need to
do here, right?

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I always talk about seasons,
right?

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A season has a beginning and a
season has an end.

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And the ability to understand
the difference between the two

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is what defines a person being
successful.

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Because it's, you know, it's I
won't say it's sad, but it's

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heartbreaking to see.
And Terry and I have worked with

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people in this position where,
you know, that they've passed

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their season.
They should have left a long

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time ago.
And now they're in an element

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that doesn't even make sense for
them anymore.

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Can you just kind of talk about
that, that inner sensing of

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knowing, OK, this is the
beginning.

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It's time to go hard.
OK.

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I think it's, it's time for me
to, you know, to, to hand the

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reins over to somebody else
because the seasons is is in.

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You know, interesting, when I
made the decision to retire,

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that was one of the things that
that actually was a, a, a

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deciding factor for me.
I felt like I had done all that

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I could do.
I felt like there was another

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level for the organization to go
to and I didn't have the energy

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or desire to do it.
My season was up.

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