Sept. 29, 2025

The Hidden Career Superpower: Human-in-the-Loop AI

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The Hidden Career Superpower: Human-in-the-Loop AI

In this episode of Leadership Sovereignty, Ralph Owens and Terry discuss the transformative impact of AI on leadership and decision-making. They emphasize the importance of balancing AI assistance with human judgment, sharing personal anecdotes about using AI for problem-solving. The conversation highlights the need for continuous learning in the AI space, including available resources and courses. They also reflect on historical technological shifts and encourage listeners to seize current opportunities in AI.


Key Takeaways

  • AI assists in the thinking process; it does not replace it.
  • There is safety in seeking counsel, including from AI.
  • Continuous learning is essential in the evolving AI landscape.
  • AI can provide guidance in real-time problem-solving.
  • The current moment is a pivotal time for AI opportunities.
  • Investing in AI education can enhance career prospects.
  • AI tools should complement human judgment, not replace it.
  • Historical shifts in technology can inform current decisions.
  • Creating an AI toolkit can empower individuals to leverage AI.
  • Seizing AI opportunities now can lead to future career advancements.


Chapters

00:00 – Why AI Won’t Think For You
01:24 – The Cinnamon Roll Story
03:12 – How GenAI Rescued a Baking Mishap
05:21 – Balancing Ethics and Human-in-the-Loop
06:41 – Microsoft Reactor’s AI Training Program
08:26 – Teenagers and AI: Noah’s Story
08:53 – Free AI Toolkit for Your Career
10:13 – AI as a Defining Career Moment
11:09 – From VMware to the Cloud Shift
12:24 – Don’t Miss the AI Wave


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Transcript
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Balancing AI assistance with
human judgement, especially with

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sensitive tasks, right?
Again, if this AI is not the

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replacement for you to think
right?

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We want to make sure that we,
we, we drive this point home.

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It isn't it does not think for
you, it just assist you in your

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thinking process, right?
There's a difference.

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You can't just give in and lean
totally over reliant upon AI for

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all of your judgement and
decisions.

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You can't do that.
The way you need to use it is in

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a way that actually assist you
in your thinking process so that

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you can be more productive and
effective.

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I mean, any thoughts there too
look?

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And I don't, I don't want, I
don't want all my Bible friends

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to take this too far out of
context.

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OK, but I'm just going to use it
as an example, right?

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The Bible says a multitude of
council right now, typically

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we're talking about mentors and
coaches and parents.

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And but you know what?
There is a level of counsel that

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you can get from Jennifer AIIAI,
and we talked about it.

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Come on.
Right.

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You're prepping for an
interview.

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That's counsel, right?
You are trying to find.

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Look, my, I'm going to tell this
story, man.

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And Ralph, we definitely have to
bring some over.

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So Shamika has gotten into
making cinnamon rolls.

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Brah, if I could scale, Cinnabon
would be in trouble.

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That's all I'm going to tell you
right now.

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My gosh.
My God.

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So Shameek was like, so you go
make a song.

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I was like cinnamon rolls,
cinnamon rolls, cinnamon rolls,

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cinnamon.
So there's a hidden joke there,

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y'all?
Because Jerry makes that song up

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for everything that should be.
You had me singing 11 time.

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What?
Was it cobbler?

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It's the cobbler, man.
I'm telling my wife is a master

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is a master man Baker.
I mean, she is just I'm and I'm

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not.
I mean, she is mean, bro, mean.

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So anyway, she's making I'm a
witness.

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She's making the cinnamon rolls,
right?

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And this is only her second time
making them.

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And so, you know, when it comes
to baking, I mean, she's like, I

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am about the golf swing, right?
The nuance, the detail, the

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micro steps, right?
And so she and she was saying

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this is probably the most
intricate thing that she's ever

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baked because of all the steps
and the rising of the yeast and

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all this kind of stuff.
Well, what happened is, man, I

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was in dude, I was trying to get
her two factor done.

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I'm bothering her and the
ingredients got mixed out of

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order and so there's something
that's supposed to happen with

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either the yeast or the
reactions and all this kind of

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stuff.
And all I know is that the dry

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and the wet got mixed out of
order.

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My wife got with the assistant
and was like, can I salvage my

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mixture?
And so she went to Gin AI on

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that.
Can she salvage her fixture?

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Can she salvage the mixture?
And it was amazing that it gave

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her steps on how to salvage it.
I said, look, I don't know.

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Now, me personally, I was like,
look, I don't know anything

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about, you know, how this is
supposed to go, but I believe

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the inputs are going to be worth
it on the outputs.

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That's all I was saying, man.
Ralph at the end of it, bro, it

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was amazing.
I said, babe, I'm be honest with

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you.
I don't know nothing about the

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dries and the wets and mixing
them, but this stuff is amazing.

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But she was able to go get
counsel on how to move forward.

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This was baking.
This was real time bro.

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So what I hear you say, what I
hear you saying is that there's

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a biblical concept in being able
to go get counsel.

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Yes, the Bible says there's
safety in it.

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There's safety in it.
Safety, right?

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And what what is counsel?
Counsel is, is wise knowledge

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based on experience, right?
And the, the ability for this

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tool to be able to give you
counsel on because to Terry's

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point, right, let's use this
example.

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Shamika, his wife is a master
Baker.

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Does she know how to chop wood?
Probably not right?

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We all can't be experts at
everything, but this tool can

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give you an abundance of counsel
on many different things, right.

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So it's it's just man, it's just
a fantastic story.

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And yeah, tell, tell Sister Pale
I'll be.

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Oh my God, what they mean?
Bro, I'm not even go.

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I'm not even go play with you.
That sound like some some some

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good stuff with some coffee
there to me.

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Hey, hey.
I have to admit you saw me this

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morning.
I have to go.

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It was so good.
I said let me go, get me some,

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let me go.
That's.

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What I'm saying?
Sir, I have to top it off.

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That's what I'm talking about.
That's a great story, Terry.

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Thank.
Thanks for sharing that.

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And so and, you know, just on on
the whole ethical

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considerations, just don't be so
over relying on it, right?

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Understand that it's here to
help you through your thinking

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process.
It's not here to think for you,

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right?
Maintain a good balance between,

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you know, automation and a human
touch, right.

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I was at a conference this week
and the term, because

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everybody's talking about AI,
right?

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The term that they kept using
and they kept hammering home was

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human in the loop, right?
That means no matter what

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process that AI is doing, there
has to be a human interaction in

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it to make sure that it has the
right outcome.

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And you want to always be the
human, right?

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You want to make sure that
you're, that you're driving the

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conversation and that it's only
helping you.

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So, so let's talk about keeping
your skills fresh, right?

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You know, we, we kind of, we've
mentioned before the tools that

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we like to use, you know, things
of that nature.

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But I think, Terry, I think you
got a great example of something

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that you have no.
Yeah.

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So initially, man, I had signed
up Shamika and I to actually go

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through this class and it was
actually designed to get women

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involved in AI and it was by
Microsoft.

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They have a initiative called
the Microsoft a reactor.

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And man, and you know me,
anytime there's a challenge,

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right?
I'm, I'm all for it.

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And so I, at least when it first
rolled out, they were like, Hey,

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the most 100 aggressive learners
here, you guys are going to get

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a free testing for AI99900.
So if you guys go through this

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class, you will have the ability
to test and get your AI900

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certification and it's through
the Microsoft Reactor, Ralph, I

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believe I shared that link.
So make sure we add it to those

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resources.
And seriously, what it is, man,

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it's about a six to eight week
course and it's A at this pace

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is self pace.
You can go out and you know, go

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through the classes.
So I have Noah signed up for it.

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And so he's through the second
week now.

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And this is coming from scratch,
right?

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Noah knows very, he knew very
little about Azure, very little

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about the micro ecosystem from
a, from a Azure standpoint, no,

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he's very technically inclined.
You know, he's built his own PC

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and I learned some things from
that experience.

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He does animations, he does 3D
graphic creation.

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And so he's very tech,
technically savvy, and so I'm

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interested in how he kind of
performs through this process.

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And so I've been talking to him
about, Hey, how was the class

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son?
He was like that.

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It, it makes sense.
I'm learning.

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So he's through Week 2 right
now.

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But yes, they Microsoft has some
wonderful initiatives out there

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to get you trained up.
And this is, this is how to how

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to create generative AI
platform, right?

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And how to, how to leverage
Copilot in that in whatever

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form, you know, based on
whatever it is you're trying to

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create.
Yeah, that's one of the, that is

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it's, it's strong.
That's all I can say.

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And like I said, Noah 17 and,
you know, he's, he's grasping

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the concepts so teaches you, you
know, the basis of Azure and

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cloud, you know, infrastructure
first.

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So it's a great like technical
foundation for where we are

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today.
Oh.

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Man, that's fantastic, that's
fantastic.

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So just a, a, a quick note, what
we've decided to do is to create

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an AI toolkit for anyone who
wants it for free.

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If you go to
leadershipsaudi.com/AI, you can

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download this toolkit And, and
what we'll do is we'll make sure

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that that toolkit contains that
course that Terry talked about

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and any other courses that we
have that we'd like to share

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along with links to the tools
that we actually like to use.

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You've heard us mention Copilot,
you've heard us mention Gemini

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and a ChatGPT, and they were
also going to include some

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templates, prompting templates
so that you could just copy and

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paste and kind of fill in your
own information.

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That'll get you a head start on
being able to use Gen.

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AI today, right?
You won't have to wait.

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You can get started, you know,
immediately.

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So just want to make that
resource available to anybody.

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Again, the whole purpose of why
we're here is to help you level

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up your career right now.
At this point in history, Gen.

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AI is an advantage that you can
take advantage of, a tool that

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you can take advantage of right
now to level up on your career.

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So we encourage everybody who's
listening to to go out and

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download that resource.
So, Ralph, can I, can I tell you

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something right?
So Ralph, Ralph has said

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something, right?
He said it a couple times.

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He said this time in history.
So let me take you guys back a

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few years.
This is maybe 2003.

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I think that's when the iPhone
came out that that was a 2007.

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That was a moment in history,
right?

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And I had a friend leading up to
that, probably I met him.

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We're really kind of reconnected
around like 98.

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And he kept telling me, Terry,
we need to get some Apple stock

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because it was down to like
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I was like, Oh yeah, Because he
knew I was Apple guy, man, that

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time in history happened, man.
And you know, it got past me.

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There are technical shifts and
you know, in the in the techno

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fear is what I'll call it that
change their, you know, VM Ware

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was one of those things, right?
Virtualization, right.

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Virtualization is really what
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today.
It is.

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It did.
That was a monumental shift,

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virtualization.
Now we don't.

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We didn't think.
We didn't.

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We didn't talk about that
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It's not even conversation
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I, I, I talked to somebody the
other day who had VM Ware and I

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kind of looked at them like they
were strange.

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Like really?
Exactly.

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But back 2007, Ralph 2008,
that's really when we connected.

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It was the center of the
universe for technology.

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And we saw it, real, real world
life scenario.

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Terry and I saw it and we we
knew that it was the future and

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chased this and it opened up all
kind of doors and opportunities.

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Where we are today, look, we
were rolling out man 50, we were

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what, 50-60 web servers over a
weekend, man.

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We we were timing them out that
orchestrator anyway, we just see

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you guys could tell we getting
on our techno geek.

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But again, but that was a moment
in time and that moment in time

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for US opened up so many
opportunities, right.

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Rav goes off to California.
I end up being an infrastructure

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director.
I end up being able to move to

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Houston twice because of what I
mean with that stuff.

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Yeah.
But we're at a This is another

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one of those moments in time
where if you get it and you're

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not it, it hasn't passed you by.
It's still early.

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It's super early still.
Early, super early, right?

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You go out and get AAI
certificate, kind of like what

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Terry was talking about in that
course.

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You get AAI certificate right?
Now, I guarantee you that that

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is going to help increase your
salary, right?

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Because most people are not
paying attention to this.

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It's they, they, they just think
it's a buzzword that's going to

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go away, right?
They, they're building, they're

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building a, a date AAI data
center here in Texas.

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What is that called?
A Stargate project.

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They call them super data
centers, right?

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For those who don't know what a
GPU is, a GPU is like a special

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processor, right?
This thing is supposed to have

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hundreds of thousands of GPUs in
it all working together, you

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know, to to to, to, to move AI
like the largest shift in AI on

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the planet, right?
Like these people are not

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putting this money into this
stuff because it's cool.

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They understand the future in it
and if you want to be able to

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leverage that, you got to get
started now for.

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Sure, for sure.
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Ralph Owens

CIO | CTO | Podcaster | 2x Houston CIO Of The Year Finalist | US Navy Veteran

Ralph Owens is an accomplished technology executive with a proven record of driving digital transformation and business growth in high-stakes environments. Fueled by a deep passion for technology and innovation, Ralph excels at developing and executing IT strategies that deliver measurable results and lasting competitive advantage. As a strategic leader, Ralph brings a sharp focus on cybersecurity, operational excellence, and building strong partnerships across the business. His experience spans diverse industries, including financial services and energy generation, where he has successfully secured critical infrastructure and navigated complex regulatory landscapes. Recognized for his ability to build high-performing teams and lead complex IT initiatives, Ralph consistently aligns technology with business goals to create innovative solutions that accelerate growth, enhance customer experience, and achieve revenue targets. Driven to empower organizations to harness technology for sustainable value, Ralph is passionate about collaborating with forward-thinking leaders to shape the future of digital transformation.

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Terry Baylor

Strategic IT & Digital Transformation Leader, Entrepreneur, Mentor, Public Speaker, and Podcaster

Terry Baylor is a transformative Strategic IT & Digital Transformation Leader, entrepreneur, mentor, public speaker, and podcaster based in Houston. He’s on a mission to humanize technology, believing that the most powerful connections still happen in person. Terry leads with empathy and action, guiding teams and organizations to harness Agile practices, embrace innovation, and thrive in complex digital landscapes. At Lift Life Technology, Terry champions the mantra "Old‑fashioned isn’t outdated," emphasizing face‑to‑face interactions in a virtual world. His recent LinkedIn reflections underscore his passion:

“When you show up, listen, and connect from the heart, you’re not just selling a service — you’re building trust, community, and lasting relationships.”

Whether he’s delivering key insights at events like Cisco Live or coaching high-performing teams, Terry empowers others to lead with authenticity, agility, and impact.